Thursday, July 30, 2009

stole over to the hammer museum this afternoon while i waited for belle (who was reclining in a dentists chair). show was missable but i spent the hour browsing their bookstore. i struck by how many great ideas are contained in any collection of books like that one. i was also reminded of just how important it is that we make things that are totally unnecessary. there have been years, even before the years of gw bush and friends, where mostly conservative folk have had contempt for art that, according to them, has no 'purpose'. they believe that the marketplace, not tax dollars, should fund art. but i would argue that that by definiton is a market. it creates commodities and the exchange of commodities. that is fine as well but its different. it is in the moments when we contemplate unnecessary things that we transcend our daily lives. i believe we, especially americans, need more of this kind of time. and personally, for a believer in truth, reality, and rationality that sort of time is the closest experience i have to magic.

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John Tooker said...

Well said.

mtto said...

I've been thinking about this a lot: art and economics. I'm reading Lewis Hyde's "The Gift - Creativity and the Artist in the Modern World".

Some things can not be sold, and when we try to sell them, something is lost. Some things, when given as gifts, increase.

Hopefully, one of the byproducts of the current financial crisis will be the widespread realization that the marketplace is not the be-all-end-all decider of the good.

-ea. said...

mtto - ive said roughly the same thing about the financial crisis. i have friends who believe (believed?) that the marketplace left to its own devices was somehow almost moral in its darwinian selection process. chills me.

Chris (C. Brian) said...

Art for art's sake

Anonymous said...

are you guys on mushrooms or something? art is subjective. y should tax dollars pay for something so subject. put down the pipe your brains are fryed.

peace

mtto said...

Eric, in your friends defense, I think it was taught to us as children of the cold war era that capitalism is the best at everything and is the same as freedom. It is a hard mindset to break.

Why shouldn't tax dollars pay for something subjective?

Are art and culture important to a society? Why do I even have to ask that question?!?

Collectively, we need to maintain some things: national parks, museums, orchestras, for example. You might not like Van Gough and Beethoven, but hopefully you can admit their work should be maintained even though it doesn't generate as much revenue as Top 40 radio.

If Alan Greenspan can admit that he was wrong about the marketplace, everyone else should be able to as well.

The point isn't to get rid of the marketplace. The marketplace is really good at some things.

Anonymous said...

The system we have in the usa is called "monopoly capitalism". We do not have a true free market economy.

"Monopoly capitalism" tends to destroy "true capitalism" which is
defined as having "free enterprise" and "competition".
'Monopoly capitalism" tends to increase and concentrate both economic
power and political power in a few individuals and entities.
"Monopoly capitalism" tends to impoverish the general citizenry of a
nation.
"True capitalism" or "free enterprise" competitive capitalism tends to both increase general wealth and distribute
it and political power more widely amongst the general citizenry.

matt volpe said...

I feel the marketplace has an unhealthy hold on the people of this country. People are zombiefied. They are told what to like and told what to buy. Marketplace may have some good to some extent, I agree, but I think people overall should learn to think for themselves and decide themselves what is good for them.

To have a think about things like this do definitely change up the daily normal routine of life. Thanks Eric.

Matt

Anonymous said...

^
The cause is televised corporate marketing and advertising. Turn off the television and enrich your life naturally, don't be brainwashed like the uber yuppy conformists.

Anonymous said...

Eric and all art lovers, please do all you can to support art in public schools! Funding sucks. I'm a teacher and am always shocked at how little knowledge my students have of the humanities. They crave it in ways they can't express. When exposed to it, there is always a spark. always. So please, please do all you can to give kids the arts!
I want my tax dollars to go to giving children an well rounded education and that includes art for art's sake (and literature)

great post Eric, thanks.

Cosmic Cowboy said...

EA
Very nice post and I agree we need more contemplative time. We as Americans are rushed, overworked and artistically undernourished. I always liked the phrase, "Turn On, Tune In and Drop Out". I think we need a 30-35 hour work week like some European nations.

Getting off topic for a second, your song "Animals" is magnificent. Its just you and your acoustic guitar, very personal and intimate and vulnerable-the unique qualities sorely missed in the current technological music climate. I would'nt complain if you were to produce an entire collection of songs in that exact fashion. Thanks for reading.

jose said...

Eric The question is would we learn?

History shows human beings are the only animals who keep making the same mistakes over and over.

This last regarding "The market place" cause ultimatly it has no moral...so in the end it´s all about education.

Still there´s no guarantee that educated people would make the market place a "better place".

Educated people have failed at perfecting the market, and educated people elected twice an "Un- educated president" so much for Yale and Harvard... W.Bush

By the way saw W. yesterday...and my final remark on the movie would be that Oliver Stone lack of courage to put Bush on the spot....on 9-11,Katrina and Irak.

mice elf said...

spectacular. this band hailing from Liverpool ENGLAND took a Jane's Addiction song and made it sound vastly superior. they added hand drum, twin acoustics, maracas, tambourine and a vocalist who sounds almost exactly like Perry Farrell with a touch of Noel Gallagher(Oasis). Clearly THEY have been reading the comments on this blog and THEY got wise. Good work guys! Keep it UP!! Eric, give this vocalist a call when Perry misbehaves.


**big round of applause**

matt volpe said...

To anonymous who commented on my comment - I wholeheartedly agree- television is a big culprit in dismantling the focus people have to think what they really want for themselves. The media in general is digusting in that way. There are some good the media may do, but I feel the cons out weigh the pros big time.

Beware, Internet 2 said...

the establishment is quietly working behind the scenes to do away with the internet in its current form.

The first wave will simply attempt to price people out of using the conventional Internet and force people over to Internet 2, a state regulated hub where permission will need to be obtained directly from an FCC or government bureau to set up a website.

The original Internet will then be turned into a mass surveillance database and marketing tool. The Nation magazine reported, "Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are developing strategies that would track and store information on our every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing system, the scope of which could rival the National Security Agency.

According to white papers now being circulated in the cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these providers would have first priority on our computer and television screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply shut out."

We see a move to demonize the Internet and tar its reputation. AOL is running ads equating Internet users with terrorists. In the next few years we may see a staged Internet shutdown which is blamed on cyber terrorists.

For the aspiring dictator, the Internet is a dangerous tool that has been seized by the enemy.

Anonymous said...

^
^
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Nice find mice elf. You sure that ain't Peter Murphy's twin brother fronting that group? lol

Anonymous said...

I did not enjoy that cover of "Just Because." They took a middling acoustic performance of a middling song and made it even weaker.

Of all the songs out there they could have covered, and all of the musical things they could be doing, they did THIS, and I'm supposed to be...impressed? No.

Anonymous said...

^
i respectfully disagree. the version you heard is superior and u know it

Anonymous said...

^
It's not all that respectful to try to tell me what I think, now is it? I'd like to respectfully repeat that I don't like either version, but that the acoustic version by The Stays was marginally superior. Doesn't matter though, for in the end it's like the difference between warm shit and cold shit.

As far as I'm concerned it's middling, boring, uncreative, mainstream, easy listening soft rock. There's no spark to it. It's musical Wonder Bread to me. This is my honest opinion with no animosity towards anyone who may have a different experience.

Anonymous said...

Sorry meant The Strays where I wrote The Stays. It was funny, trust me. :(

Anonymous said...

^Maybe Pantera, Korn and the Sex Pistols would light your fire better. LOL!

Anonymous said...

not the same person...but isn´t that obvious Pantera, Korn and the Pistols have way better songs that shitty song of 3/4 of Jane´s.

Plus did you take a look at the guys singing they look like sissys with those delicate shirts and those delicate haircuts...Do you look like that?

Anyway your off topic here man read the post.

Anonymous said...

i tHiNk thEy r veRy cUte like pReTTi peRi iN a sPeeDo

Peek a Boo said...

If I were any one of the 3/4 of JA I would be flattered an aspiring British band was covering the song. Demonstrates some of Strays was in fact influential and has staying power, at least to the Brits. Hooka!!!

Anonymous said...

"^Maybe Pantera, Korn and the Sex Pistols would light your fire better. LOL!"

I'm the poster you responded to.

I take your comment as a joke, but perhaps you really don't have a grasp on the truly wide world of music out there. That would be very sad.

You're right about one thing; I would rather hear the Sex Pistols. I don't want to listen to them, but I liked them when I was 14, and they're far more interesting than the boring radio rock of Strays. If I were forced to choose, it would be "Holiday In The Sun" over "To Match The Sun" every time.

Good day.

bman said...

No doubt

Simon said...

ea,

my mistress and i will be in socal in the month of september on a leisure tryp. what are the odds jane's will do some gigs in the los angeles vicinity during that time? please think to play at big bear mtn. please. i beg of u oh great one. i beg of u

gcathey7 said...
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gcathey7 said...

well spoken...i agree completely. And as if any government entity has the authority/knowledge/or right to deem what Art is acceptable (therefore,fundable)...
or "obscene" and not worthy of Tax funds. i believe kids need way MORE exposure to Art ~current & classic,and it's History, in their formative/School years.(otherwise what is our Future? *i'm reminded of the scene in Pink Floyd's "The Wall",of kids falling into the Large meat-grinder.)...
~by the way, here's a Great exhibit

http://www.stolenspace.com/section.php?xSec=176&xPage=27

Anonymous said...

I hate it when I write something and then I lose it, or I think I've lost it, and then I either have to give up on the endeavor completely, or reconstruct it from scratch.

The above user has my sympathy.

chris said...
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Anonymous said...

calm disobedience has it's place...mine was the rock and roll hof...lennon's white baby grand...a chord rang out...blissfully shown the door

well worth it


k-v

OU812 said...

I'm probably going to take heat for my comment but I have to agree mice-elf. The Red Deltas do Strays era Janes Addiction-'Just Because' better than Jane's Addiction did. But if you think about it that is not saying much is it?

Anonymous said...

Eric, surely you experience feelings that some others may consider to be divinely inspired while you are, say, roaming the countryside, contemplating the strangeness of the universe, or simply experiencing a random surge of emotion which is seemingly unrelated to any concurrent Earthly event.

I mean in addition to the the magical feeling inspired by experiencing "unnecessary" art.

Anonymous said...

Feel good do you E. Avery? Gave up your good name to hitch a downhill ride with a has been, sellout band.

gcathey7 said...

To whomever posted that previous post...you are a LOSER!
Janes Addiction's reunion (with all 4 Original members),was something i waited years for...i had NO interest in seeing any of the previous Tours (with replacement members-who Ruined Jane's sound). JA is NOT a sellout,or has-been,or anything close to that! with E.A. back on Bass, Janes is obviously one of those re-unions that every true fan always wanted (something we never got from previous,similar Ground-Breaking bands...because of Grudges/Deaths/etc.)
Now,go back to watching NASCAR & reading Rolling Stone magazine,you brainless-tasteless toad.

Anonymous said...

Those fuckers at Goldman Sacks made more than $100 million in trading revenue on a record 46 separate days during the second quarter, or 71 percent of the time, breaking the previous high of 34 days in the prior three months.

Fuck them up the ass.

Anonymous said...

JA^2009 = bad cover band. end of story

Anonymous said...

and Goldman Sachs set aside a record $11.4 billion for pay and benefits in the first half of 2009up 33% from a year earlier and enough to pay each worker $386,429 for the period, the company reported last month.

Anonymous said...

How is Perry Farrell's JA any different from Goldman Sachs? Do anything for cash

Anonymous said...

Suck out all the art
Feed the money machine
One hundred twenty dollars
We will gouge you clean

The greatest hit songs
Are all you'll hear us play
We're in it for the money
We're in it to get paid

Suck out all the art
Feed our money machine
We are janes addiction
we will gouge you clean

Anonymous said...

*eyeroll*

Here's one:

I write shitty poems
To a guy I don't respect
Because my life is more pathetic
Than a shit-eating insect

If I'm not a total loser
As I type each tiresome letter
Why do I hang around
While I claim I'm so much better?

Anonymous said...

Your poem tickles my man gash

rb said...

art is resistance

rb said...

is thankful for good friends and warm cocoa.

E2 said...

I asked questions at the "ask Jane's" section of Janesaddiction.com. My question(s) nor the questions of other fans have yet to be addressed.

Eric why have you not given any interviews to the press in the year since you rejoined the group?

Is this the end of the line for you and the group or are you just shy about publicity? Thanks for answering

Anonymous said...

watch Perry's new video

If you watched his video you can see he has embraced the Paris Hilton extravagent lifestyle. His words reveal the shallowness of his goals in the remaining years of his life: party, live it up and rub it in your face. This is where your Janes Addiction and Lollapalooza ticket dollars are going to support. All I can say is if the old Perry Farrell saw the video he would be turning over in his grave.

lyrics from the new song entitled, "I like em big"

We're gonna have fun
Etty and me head way out west
2 champagne glasses and a private jet
never had a lover who loved me more
never had a lover who showed me more
shes a singer and a dancer and so much more
she lets you take a picture behind closed doors
i like em big
the camera loves you hun

Anonymous said...

I love Perry, but as nice as Etty seems to be, her style, and her influence as Perry's muse, has been artistically destructive. Perry's happy and healthy, and that's great, and I think that's a testament to Etty's positive qualities. Unfortunately she's got shit taste, and Perry's work always reflects the influence of his women.

Anonymous said...

pf might be off hard drugs but it looks like he substited his money as a drug and uses it as such. hes probably a really sad person or in a sad state if thats all he has to make him feel good. its true many of the rich and famous are miserable and lonely souls. i ask you this, if he lost all his money and became a pauper where would his wife be?

Anonymous said...

"Private Jet" huh. And bragging about it. Hmm. What has caused this laughable manifestation?

Anonymous said...

Perry is the shit, pay up bitches! or shut the fuck up. This is the way of the world, get over it. Living the life is better than working for the man. If any of you had the chance, that would be the road you would take - don't lie. Don't fuckin lie, you would take the money and say fuck you to everyone. You would tell your boss, hey eat shit, you would tell your fat ugly wife to drop dead, and don't let the door hit you on the ass. If you had Perry's money you would say hey all you hot pieces of ass come over and suck my dick and don't forget to cradle the balls! For those of you who say money does not matter - you have no money - you don't know that money actually does make you a happier person. Go ask a poor person, they are fuckin miserable. So I say, Perry live the life, good for you, who gives a shit what music you make, if someone does not like it, fuck them, don't listen. Help Wanted sucked, some people liked it some people thought it sucked. In any event EA got paid. He is getting JA money as well, how is he any different? People go to work for one reason, to get paid. Otherwise it would not be called work. In any event, these guys, JA are not relevant anymore, their time has past. Not a big deal, it happens to everyone. JA should have cashed in earlier, then they all would have had alot more money. They, except Perry, spent years with their silly side projects, tooling around until JA got back together. See money made the difference and you know it.

Anonymous said...

Help Wanted didn't suck. If you can't tell it's a labor of love, you're an asshole. If you think it was some kind of payday for Eric, you've got to be out of your fucking mind. To try to tell us what the "way of the world" after that piece of brilliance is pure hilarity.

If it doesn't matter what music Perry makes in the course of making money, why are you defending him? By your logic, you must purely be a fan of his lifestyle. You may as well go defend some banker on a financial blog.

Plenty of people have made money and made good music or other types of art at the same time. Perry has been making absolute shit, which is why people lose respect for him. We want him to be wealthy...that's not the issue.

Anonymous said...

right on man...you can make money being respected and not selling out and PF music right now is shit I mean this is the guy from Psi Com, Jane´s and Porno??

Where is Casey man?... she was the 5th member of Jane´s...bet she might think PF has lost it.

This issue has being long discuss and has no end point.

Eric don´t make another Jane´s record It can´t be good... not with the attitude towards life and things of PF now.

Anonymous said...

Maybe that's the best Perry can do now. Why don't you go out and do something for yourself instead of following. Create something, anything is better than tooling around complaining about someone who does not give a shit about what you think. Make something of yourself instead of living through another. EA can make another shit record, he will like it and that's all that matters.

Lance said...

Ultimately the marketplace will determine the success or failure of Farrell's solo music. He can make all the cheesy, low class videos he wants. No one is listening or buying. Eventually he will get bored of that and move on to something even more stupid. Let him. He's the one on the sinking ship wasting his time and money on that worthless trash that his wife is ordering him to do.

For additional discussion on this topic see thread
http://xiola.org/bored/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=14621

Anonymous said...

Eric is condoning all of it. Guilt by association.

Anonymous said...

^
^
No. Rather, when gets tired of making a fool of himself he'll resume selling classic Jane's songs for television commercials-laughing all the way to bank!
haha hahah ahahahahaha hahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahhahahahahahahahah

Anonymous said...

Eric can't do anything about, and shouldn't give a shit about anything Perry does outside of Jane's. It's just like how your employer shouldn't give a shit if you smoke pot all weekend long.

Eric's musical association with Perry begins and end with Jane's. If Jane's gets on the stage and Perry starts singing his new Perry&Etty song, THEN it becomes Eric's business.

Anonymous said...

"The mistakes of the fool are known to the world, but not to himself. The mistakes of the wise man are known to himself, but not to the world. Wise men learn by other men's mistakes, fools by their own. As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."

Anonymous said...

Hi Perry

I saw your video. I want you and your pet playmate to lick my man gash

Anonymous said...

Perry's having the time of his life. Why don't you try it sometime, instead of wasting time on this blog. He and Yoko are in love and that's a beautiful thing.

Anonymous said...

**laughing out loud**

Anonymous said...

PERRY FARRELL

This one’s trickier—there was a time when this sun-baked California-raisin was a real contender. The Jane’s Addiction years produced the classic albums Nothing’s Shocking and Ritual de lo Habitual. His follow-up band Porno for Pyros,was a worthy second act. In the ’00s, though, Farrell’s a clown. Jane’s Addiction’s 2003 reunion album Strays was a slab of transparently stupid cock-rock, and his project, Perry Farrell’s Satellite Party, shovels every hippie-bullshit SoCal cliché you can think of into one big pile of musical dung.

VERDICT: Should’ve gone out in 1997, high on acid, riding a flaming motorcycle across the Mojave Desert. (MH)

http://www.seemagazine.com/article/music/music-feature/alt-rock-remainder-bin/

Anonymous said...

Not that you need it but say you want my honest opinion... Avery you Dave and Perk could do much much better without the weak link Not only has he lost his voice but the guy has lost his mind and I dont mean that in a good way Say you bring in a guy who can really sing and form a brand new band I think it would really kick ass

Anonymous said...

^
what a tard, hey Diamond David Lee Roth, this tard's for you

Anonymous said...

BUt if ea left ja he'd just go back into unproductive hiberation

Anonymous said...

hibernation

Anonymous said...

^
no now he has money thanks to Perry, maybe he can do a stupid internet talk show like Dave, or a reality show like Dave on MTV, or play in a cover band like Dave, direct porn movies like Dave, funny how money sets you free. All thanks to Perry!

Anonymous said...

Lolla just ended...
Will it be the end Eric?

Anonymous said...

No it will not be the end. JA will continue with or without Avery. Perry and Etty needs the cash.

spirit of pf said...

ok.

i have successully made contact with the spirit of PF. he is very displeased with the behavior of his clone on the earthly plane of existence. he admits it was a mistake in donating his dna for human cloning before his death. he feels great pain upon learning of his clone's disregard of the grand tradition. he asked me to relay a message to his clone- please cease and desist damaging his reputation and trashing his great legacy or there will be severe karmic consequences to be paid.

Anonymous said...

^
Shut up that video was rad

Anonymous said...

Where is Casey when we need her

Anonymous said...

Casey should release a solo album. It would be beautiful just as she is and her artwork.

phallus said...

Perry's played his last card with getting EA back in. The media didn't take the bait. I was waiting for an earthquake. The earth never shook. I was waiting for a sign. The seas never parted. Yoko took the stage. My penis went limp.

Xiola Black said...

For the record, "Idiots Rule" was NOT performed NIN/JA 09. It was only rehearsed. People are confusing Idiots with the song they did play once or twice in NJ named "Obvious".

Anonymous said...

You must be right cause I can´t imagine PF singing "Idiots" at all now...not the way it was sang back in the day I mean.

Anonymous said...

Electronica isn't innovative, any 14 yr old kid can load some preprogrammed loops, mix em up and call it a song. Any one without the slightest amount of music talent can use computer toys to make sounds and call it music. What it is is an souless imitation, just like "I Like Em Small(We're gonna have fun, gonna have gay fun)"

Anonymous said...

Casey is a babe. Sorry to hear but her breakup but you know what that means....she's single-rebound!

Anonymous said...

I saw the new 8" dongle phallus on sale at Fairvilla Sex Shoppe. And what do you know? It was the limited edition Farell model complete with bonus pink French Tickler. I wanted to sit on it.

"Cash in hand and dick on screen
who said cashing in was ever clean?"

Anonymous said...

Now after seeing what PF has become I wish I hadn't been following the forums and looking for anything PF related. What a letdown. It makes it hard to listen to almost anything of his now because its tainted knowing the endgame of his efforts was what he is doing today-shameful

Anonymous said...

I try to imagine that none of this ever happened and after Porno For Pyros broke up and it the finality. I try to imagine he retired at that point and is living in Fiji or some island surfing and living in quiet solitude and not making a mess of things. Not making a mess of the good memories. I should have known good things cannot last and all things pass

Anonymous said...

^
Yer too negative

Jay Dog said...

So I'm in my late 20's. Long story short I banged this smoking hot 19 yr old the othr nite. It was amazing. Perfect ten body. Blonde hair. She even swallows.
But. Is there really any future. I got another hot 24 yr old who's alot more mature and we have much more in common. Should I keep trying to do both chicks at the same time? I know it will unravel pretty fast. But young girl is soo hot. I feel blessed to have had Her the few times already. Am I just being greedy and a scum bag if I try to date both these girls at the same time. Or would I be a fool not to

Anonymous said...

^
Do it!!! keep fucking both them bitches hard. Don't fall in love like a pussy. Find em, fuck em and forget em.

Anonymous said...

^
Been there. The young one will get sick of you, and her immaturity will only reveal itself more and more. they are not ready to be tied down at that age, esp. to an old man such as yourself. Don't risk getting attached. Go with the other one or start fresh.

Mike Adkins said...

Notice "...Owen Meany" was on your book list (I'm just finishing it). Interesting how Johnny (narrator) believed that Vietnam war protesters brought "aid and comfort" not to North Vietnamese or Viet Cong, but to to people like Ronald Reagan and those who believed as he; essentially hardening their resolve. That observation ties in with this post.

Jay Dog said...

Well. Another nite spent with the 19 yr old. God is she hot. I know deep down it probly could never work out. But she does seem really mature for 19. She was even cool with the fact that I hooked up with another chick last weekend.

I just got out of a long relationship and I feel like I was a saint over those yrs. I think I'm just gonna have fun while it lasts. And shit. It IS fun.
Pro abably the last time I'll touch a girl like that without paying for it. I think I earned this in one way or another. I just hope she is as grown up as she acts.

jssd said...

^ Heh are you talking bout yoko? Oh wait nevermind eh she's like 40 yrs old

Idiots Rule said...

"Idiots Rule" was played live this year. It was played on June 13 in Portsmouth, VA. It most certainly was not mistaken for "Obvious," which was played infrequently, but more than once, and not at the VA show.

The setlist for the VA show:

Three Days
Whores
Ain't No Right
Pigs In Zen
Then She Did...
Up The Beach
Mountain Song
Been Caught Stealing
Ocean Size
Ted, Just Admit it...
Summertime Rolls
Idiots Rule
Stop!
Jane Says

Anonymous said...

" watch Perry's new video "

Nothing new, really. We've heard his dj music since 1998. Old hat if you ask me I dont call the dj music inventive. You want inventive try picking up where Good Gods Urge left off. GGU should have won some kind of award for pure musical brillance.

JM said...

Hi, Eric

This may be a long shot...

But I've just read on a couple of online news sites from Brazil that Jane's Addiction has confirmed a show for November 7th, @ the Maquinaria Festival.

Is this correct?

I'd love to get some real confirmation from JA so that I can get plane tickets and find a way to purchase tickets to the festival...

Can you PLEASE tell the guys in charge of JA.com to update the tour section if this info is correct!?

Thanks for everything Eric... and I do mean everything.

Take care,
JM
(Larry B.)

Anonymous said...

did not play idiots rule

Anonymous said...

Yeah, they played Idiots Rule. So what? Who cares? Does it matter? Would it suddenly make Jane's acceptable to you? You'd just say the it sucks, and continue on where you left off. It wouldn't mean anything for you.

That Idiots Rule was played live during the VA show was confirmed by multiple sources, including inside the band. It was recorded as well, but it's gonna be a cold day in hell when you hear it. That's probably your endgame anyways. Make false statements so that someone will share the recording with you. Too bad douche! :D

Anonymous said...

History of Jane's Addiction

by anony mouse

1986
pf picks a bundle of fresh shrooms from a cowpattie and swallowed them hole. the mushroom bestowed upon him a special gift and told him to start a band called ja. the mushroom explained the band would bring him good fortune.

1991
ja breaks up. pf returned to the same fecal pile where a fresh batch of shrooms resided. he ate them. on his trip the mushroom told him to start a band and call it porno for pyros.

1997
p4p breaks up. pf heard the mushroom spirit calling to him. pf returned to the same fecal cow pasture and feasted on the magic mushrooms that were waiting for him. this time the mushroom told him to reform p4p. he argued with the mushroom spirit and got angry and told it to fuck off. he told the mushroom he was a god and knew better than anyone else. the mushroom took away the gift it had given to him and disappeared into the foggy woodlands.

2003
pf returned to the cowpattie but to his dismay there were no mushrooms waiting for him. he cursed the mushroom spirit. he wrote an album and called it strays. he knew it sucked because his special gift was gone.

2005
etty told him to make satellite party. after he wrote it he knew it sucked because his special gift was gone. despite that he proclaimed himself to be the DoGstar- God-star. the album was a failure and condemned by fans and critics alike.

2009
etty told him to make a new ja record with averys help. he returned to the fecal pile fertilized it with his own golden stream of urine. he prayed for the mushroom spirit to give him shrooms to eat. there was no answer. no shrooms did grow on the shit pile. he cursed the ground cuz he realized he would fail again.

Anonymous said...

^
You forgot Song Yet To Be Sung.

Anonymous said...

no they DID NOT play idiots rule, this was confirmed by multiple sources, including inside the band

Anonymous said...

Anybody meet Perry's brother? He reminds me of Willie Nelson. Perry said he and his brother were "rebels". Perry is no rebel but his brother is a true biker/hippie.

Anonymous said...

yes it is confirmed JA DID NOT play idiots rule

Anonymous said...

Well it's human nature when one acquires wealth or power he or she tends to flash it and lord it over the lower classes in society. Affluence is often a ruiner of honest creativity because it removes an incentive to work hard and achieve something great. He's a product of the materialist, phony culture of southern california and american capitalism in general.

Anonymous said...

^
Please do not speak of Eric in this manner. He is limited and cannot help himself for that of which you speak.

Anonymous said...

^
I was referring to the author of "I like Em Big"

Anonymous said...

sum lolla clips r leakin out. the band soundz great. better than ninja. by lots. eric is a master i dont need 2 tell ya that. peri is being more like old peri and belting and screaming like sum person lit a fire under his buttocks!

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately EA has acquired wealth and power (thanks to Perry), he tends to flash it and lord it over the lower classes of society. EA new found affluence (thanks to Perry) has ruined his honest creativity because it removed his incentive to work hard and achieve something greater. EA is a product of the materialist, phony culture of southern california and american capitalism in general. Oh well.

Anonymous said...

^
*yawn*

Anonymous said...

This blog is a dangerous yet tantilzing place. Props to ea for not censoring

Anonymous said...

Bay Area is FAR superior to SoCal. If I could be blessed with a job up there, I'd be out the door before the lights turned off.

Anonymous said...

Yes Eric the "Up the Beach" video on utube is amazing...that song is so California surf waves.

Thanks for sharing.

Anonymous said...

The problem is Farrell thinks his DJ music IS great and charting new territory. He believes deep down that he IS making innovative music that IS relevant. I'm sure the Farrell's worked as hard as THEY could to make "We're Gonna have fun" sound as retarded as it sounds. That is the best he can do. I mean that really IS the best he can do so he should NOT be making new Jane's musik. No way No how. Remember "Bring The Mood" the last Jane's song he wrote? He can't help it, he's lost it. You know it and I know it.

"Affluence is often a ruiner of honest creativity because it removes an incentive to work hard and achieve something great"

Anonymous said...

if u love nascar, sport a mullet, wear a wifebeater, chew tobacco, own a dildo and cockring...you will like the new JA album entitled 'nu-Janes'

Anonymous said...

Eric, I hope it was a good time for you and you gained what you hoped you would gain. But time to pull the plug on the cash in band. Don't forget, "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him"

Anonymous said...

Without a master producer(not Reznor) Dave and the other 2 boys(except for Eric) will think whatever music they make will be the best thing since sliced bread. They thought Panic Channel was awesome and Perry obviously is proud of Satellite Party.

Anonymous said...

All is lost.

James said...

Thing is, in the old days Jane's live sets sounded kinda shitty but they fucking meant it and blasted your tits off with unbridaled energy.

Now they sound kinda slick but they're like a bloated dying sperm whale at the Long John Silver's drive-thru asking for a supersize order of dolphindick nuggets.

Jared said...

^
that was the worst analogy ever

Anonymous said...

How do you know Casey co wrote Classic Girl and My Time? Is that info in the Whores book?

Anonymous said...

I know she isn't listed in the credits but that doesn't matter

Anonymous said...

lhr

I think my finger is stuck up my ass, I am still waiting for you my love

Anonymous said...

^
^
^
She wrote a few bars of the acoustic guitar in "My Time". She was the sole inspiraion for "Classic Girl" but did not write it.

Kiss my crotch said...

Without psychotropics, without transvesticism, without Casey Nicolli, without an overwhelming desire to imitate life in extreme forms(art), without the desire to clash with popculture there is no Jane's Addiction...

Anonymous said...

Dropping loads all over lhr's face

Inner Light said...

As far as electronic music is concerned, the Beatles were using tape loops and primitive electronic gadgets way back in 1966. What they were able to accomplish (under the influence of LSD) dwarfs most electronic music of today. If you can't improve on what they did don't even try.

Abra Cada vera said...

Abra Cadavera

A mixture of Folk, Rock, Blues, Country, rhythms and sounds from Cuba, South America, The Middle East, India, and Africa. Odd time signatures, socially conscious lyrics. An incredible mix of styles and cultures pushing the envelope of time.

Anonymous said...

Guys

Eric Avery tried to get new Jane's music started. He was on the right track using odd time signatures and a left of center approach we like. Guess who stepped in and shot it all down? Guess who wanted to make it mainstream and lame?

Anonymous said...

^ yr mama

Anonymous said...

Perry mama?

Anonymous said...

pf "there's something attractive about that jagged odd time signature there guys(ea, dn, sp)..."

dn "good. i'm glad you like it."

ea "lets make it even more jagged and off kilter"

pf "well i meant there's something attractive...but eh.. thats not right for us..."

sp "what do you mean, it's what you used to like hearing"

pf "JA is a funky band. JA has to make you want to get up and dance like they do in the disco bars"

ea "JA is not a dance band"

pf "JA is going to sound like satellite party. satellite party is phat."

sp "if yer talking house beats i'm out of here"

trent "you guys suck. lets make it sound like ministry."

ea "yeah ministry is cool but radiohead is better. lets make it sound exactly like what radiohead did in this song...."

dn "lets make it sound like megadeth"

pf "are you not listening. i said JA is a funky band. funky band. hear me!"

sp "we heard you"

Anonymous said...

Hey Perry

Next time if you want to give your gay "supergroup" idea some legitimacy at least find a musician who is not some top 40 dork like Joe Perry. Lou Reed was there at Lollapalooza he would have been ok. Flea, Keidis, Jack Johnson, Daniel Ash and a number of others would have been ok. But guys like Joe Perry, Slash, Jason Bonham, Nuno, Billy Idol. These guys are lame. Very lame. Do we even have to tell you this? We shouldn't have to tell you this.

Anonymous said...

^
Your well intentioned argument is undercut by the mention of no-talent douchebag Anthony Keidis.

Anonymous said...

^
Perry's wife is into hair metal. She's from China or Taiwan where hair metal is worshipped so she doesn't know any better. She invites them. That is y u see PF hanging around them. Perry is old and out of the loop and doesn't care. He just wants to increase his paycheck.

Anonymous said...

Strays=cockrock, hairmetal

Anonymous said...

^
Duh. No shit.

Anonymous said...

Farrell is so predictable these days its not hard look into the near future and say with certainty what he will do. Anything that will make Jane's look and sound stupid and drive it into the ground thinking it will increase htheir notoriety!

Hows it like working for your boss Eric? Does he give you a 10 cent raise everytime you agree to shake hands go along with his(& etty's) dumb ideas?

Anonymous said...

Taylor Hawkins from Foo Fighters told Perry that he was a goofball for inviting Nuno to play for Satellite Party.

Anonymous said...

Perry pretended like he didn't know Nuno was in a shitty hair band called Extreme

Anonymous said...

Dave won't let Perry do cockrock this time

ZOmbie said...

I hear this expression endlessly perpetuated when discussing bands like AC/DC, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi, Guns N'Roses and The Cult in a negative light, but what exactly does it actually mean?

Anonymous said...

Don´t compare The Cult with those bands.

Anonymous said...

Mr Avery,
I was just listening to Blue Oyster Cult 'Don't Fear The Reaper' and I thought of you. The song is obviously very dark and gothic in words/music. What Gothic was before Joy Division, Cure, ect. Were they an influence perhaps?

Reaper said...

If anyone is interested, there is a slow, grim version of 'Don't Fear The Reaper' here. Reminds me a lot of early Pink Floyd. The vocal is reminescent of Roger Waters.

Anonymous said...

^
^
^
^
^
Dave is the source of the cockrock, you dope.

Anonymous said...

Define cock rock

Anonymous said...

You fucking moron, cockrock is dumb, slick, metal-influenced rock radio music that jocks and townies enjoy.

Anonymous said...

Well Eric your going to Brazil....

At least the crowd doesn´t suck down there.

Anonymous said...

Cock-Rock is any kind of guitar-fetishizing hard rock that exudes machismo or misogyny. Cliched lyrics bragging about sexual exploits and pompous masturbatory guitar. Perry and Dave are equally culpable. Listen to Satellite Party, "Kinky" to get an idea of exactly what cock rock is.

Anonymous said...

^
I think I explained the concept as well as you did, but first, and with far fewer words.

Anyways, I suppose it might take quite an effort to get through to this dope, so the more the merrier.

Repetition, repetition, repetition...

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

If you look at his body of work over the past decade plus his interviews, internet comments and esp his current actions, there is nothing to indicate anything insightful on his part. He seems caught in a whirlwind of mediocrity bereft of insight and high artistic motive.

Anonymous said...

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adicto said...

Hello Jane's Addiction:

Can I ask of you a small request? Please come to small towns and play for us. Please return to grassroots. Please come and play the songs outdoors the songs your base loves. Come return to your roots if you can do it we thank you. Thank you!

Adios!

adicto said...

ps

San Luis Obispo!

Anonymous said...

Yes Eric agree Tool Rules.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure how can Dave play cockrock?

Anonymous said...

^

Apparently you're not even sure if you are making a statement or asking a question.

What seems to be the root of your confusion today?

Anonymous said...

Dave never says his music is that way

Anonymous said...

Dave dresses like those ex glam rockers of the 80´s in 2009(tatto´s and an over produced goth look) Motley Shit, Guns and Fuckers, Crapp!!...that added to the music of Strays and Panic Shit... yes he is a cock rocker by himself, in Jane´s Avery and PF keep it away from that shit, but PF has lost it...Eric was not in Strays and does play in Panic Shit.

Anonymous said...

does NOT play in Panic Shit

Anonymous said...

NIN still looks and plays the same and still makes creative music...the only thing thats sucks now is people going to concerts...no pit on a NIN or Jane´s gig? is that even possible? how lame is that.

This message is for the 20 somethings...the music this bands made was complete with the people going back in the day...without the rebelion and kaos my generation had and felt it looses something...this new generation sucks there all a bunch of monkeys trying to look cool, they even fucked up the Ray Ban´s Wayfarer look.

I want a new hardcore movement- where´s the new Black Flag?

Anonymous said...

" The pop metal-sleaze metal bands of the 70s, 80's and 90's were concerned with peddling their gumball plastic music and getting girls because they were in a band. There were 100's of them and they all sounded alike. They are a stain on the history of modern music.

There was an alternative to the aforementioned cheap, tasteless, classless bands. The Cure, Jane's Addiction, Violent Femmes, Sonic Youth, Chritian Death, ect. Those bands wrote about real life issues and focused on making music into an artform. "

Anonymous said...

Kurt Cobain´s daughter wears Prada, Gucci and all that designers crap...it´s that even possible?...His dad stands for all that was against that...With all that´s has being happening with the alterna-punk bands of the 90´s...i´m glad Kurt, Layne and Shannon are gone!

I can´t picture the Kurt from Nirvana driving a Ferrari, listening to his new demo album to be release next month on Wallmart kids!

Anonymous said...

^
^
You can scratch Jane's off that list.

Update: 2001-present
JA is concerned with milking there past for all the money they can. They were once concerned with artistic aims but today they could care less.

Anonymous said...

aka arena rock, party rock, cheese rock, cheese metal=putrid. avoid. you'll want to check out these genre's for real music, theres plenty out there

* Alternative
* Goth Rock
* Shoegaze
* Post-Rock/Experimental
* Funk Metal
* Indie Rock
* Alternative Country-Rock
* Neo-Psychedelia
* Space Rock
* Psychobilly
* Ambient
* Indie
* Garage Punk
* Alternative Folk
* College Rock
* Art Rock
* British Folk-Rock
* Southern Rock
* Punk
* Post-Punk
* College Rock
* Roots Rock
* Surf
* Jam Bands
* Acid Rock
* Acid Folk
* Freakbeat

Anonymous said...

Witch is better, Thee Panic Channel, The Satellight Party or The Perry & Ettie experience?

Anonymous said...

and yes, joe perry is a big kahuna of cock rock. that is why he was there next to perry and dave. they really wanted the super big kahuna of cock rock, stephen tyler but he charged too much for his pecker to be stroked by perry

nick drake said...

Nick Drake, kinda like an English James Taylor who never got to get old or sell out *eh hum*. "Pink Moon" is his best, just his vocal and guitar and gentle eccentricity, slightly haunted. No one else sounds or writes like him. Makes for good company on a rainy day or a windy night when you're alone. Put on a pot of tea. You might even listen to it twice in a row. I love mournful music, and I have a particular weakness for suicidal musicians especially the ones that died too early to suck...*cough*

Anonymous said...

Frank Zappa for president!

Anonymous said...

some may question what happened to PF? the short answer is money spoilt him just as it did bowie whose output, once masterful, is horrendous and has been for many years now.

Anonymous said...

they did not play idiots rule

Anonymous said...

who cares

Anonymous said...

lhr

thank you for slipping me the big one

Anonymous said...

they did play idiots rule

Anonymous said...

whoever said they wish Jane's could be a supergroup is a moron who doesn't know the definition of "supergroup"

SUPERGOUP
from wikipedia
"In the late 1960s, the term supergroup was coined to describe "a rock music group whose performers are already famous from having performed individually or in other groups."[1][2] Supergroups tend to be short-lived, often lasting only for an album or two. Additionally, supergroups are often formed as side projects that are not intended to be permanent.

Some of the most well-known supergroups include: 1960s groups Cream, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young and Blind Faith; 1970s groups Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Humble Pie, Cactus and Bad Company; the 1980s & 1990s groups The Firm, Traveling Wilburys, Mad Season, Damn Yankees and The Highwaymen; the 2000s-era bands A Perfect Circle, Velvet Revolver, Audioslave, Transplants, and Zwan.

Ted Kennedy is dead. said...

Senator Ted Kennedy is dead.

remember chappaquiddick?
This is a good day to remember Mary Jo Kopechne.

Mary Jo Kopechne (July 26, 1940 – July 18, 1969) was an American teacher, secretary and political campaign specialist who died in a car accident on Chappaquiddick Island on Martha's Vineyard while being driven by DRUNKEN United States Senator Ted Kennedy. Kennedy was never charged and never paid for his crime - until this morning.

Anonymous said...

I Remember the Kennedy incident...I believe it cost him the posibility of running for president.

The supergroup remark is out place cause the moron that said this was PF but he did said it regarding Jane´s becoming a superband of extreme popularity...everybody knows the "formal" definition...except people who need to look for it on wikipedia.

Anonymous said...

I wish JA coverband would become a defunctgroup and stay that way and leave our good memories in peace.

Jane's Addiction RIP 1991

Anonymous said...

Very much appreciate what Billy Corgan and Navarro are doing with their acoustic set. I still hold hope for Navarro even though Farrell has shunned acoustic music

Corgan

Anonymous said...

^
The concerts Sold Out In Visalia, CA. Corgan's "Spirit in the sky" is a psych rock tribute & better than the Pumpkins. Wasnt ea invited to hook up with him in a project not long ago? Not sure y he declined :(

youtube.com/watch?v=YXwLfmc4Qi8&feature=related

JM said...

ERIC!

Please tell me JA is playing with FNM in Chile, October 29!

C'mon!! That way you could play in Argentina 3 days later... IT ALL FITS!

C'MON!

:)
JM

Anonymous said...

they did not play idiots rule

Anonymous said...

^
Who is "they"?

Anonymous said...

alcohol causes neurological dysfuction and permanent damage if abused long term. t. kennedy was an alcoholic. maybe thats why pf is losing it. lay off the booze there guy

Anonymous said...

^
You are a profoundly shitty diagnostician.

Anonymous said...

^
Thank You, it is my speciality. Tell me my friend, whatz on yr mind today, what is troubling you. Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?

Eat Some Lsd said...

Saratoga Springs police officer sprayed, sickened with LSD while making arrest

August 17, 2009 10:58 AM

A Saratoga Springs police officer had to be hospitalized Saturday after he was splashed with LSD while trying to make an arrest during a street drug investigation, the Saratoga Springs Police Department said.

Police officers working a street-level counter-drug detail attempted to arrest 30-year-old Todd Buchas of Ballston Spa Saturday evening when Buchas ran from police, attempting to discard apparent drug evidence as he ran.

After a short foot chase, police caught up with Buchas near the public library. He became combative with responding officers and resisted their attempts to arrest him.

Police say Buchas had some small plastic eyedropper-type containers and began spraying liquid from them, some of which landed on the hands of the investigator who was helping arrest Buchas.

Shortly after Buchas was placed under arrest, the investigator sprayed with LSD began to feel the effects of the drug. He felt ill and was taken to the Saratoga Emergency Room, where he spent hours recovering, said SSPD Lt. Gregory Veitch.

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/police-1265602-buchas-arrest.html

Anonymous said...

they did not play idiots rule

Anonymous said...

Ted gets into my ass and fucks me so hard and fast making me screech with pleasure

Anonymous said...

The truth was that Ted's high school coach, wanted in the worst way to fuck Ted in the ass himself. Ted had a really beautiful ass. What you might call
prize winning. All muscular and smooth skinned with a
deep crack and nice dimples in the globes. Looking at Ted naked in the locker room and dreaming about eating out that ass for hours

Anonymous said...

yuck

Anonymous said...

Hey JM where did you get the info that Jane´s playing in Chile with Faith no More?...anyway if they are playing Chile they will play a gig in Argentina for sure.

Play I would for You said...

Why they dont play I would For You and Classic Girl? It has been forever and a day. It is time Eric. It is time.

Anonymous said...

^
eh, coverbands only play the greatest hits

Anonymous said...

LSD could inspire farrell to write a fairytale of magic than would charm even the most negative detractors who doubt the capablity of post 91 Jane's A.

Anonymous said...

^Billy Corgan

Anonymous said...

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epiC said...

friggin EPIC!!!
Billy Corgan + Dave Navarro with Spirits in the Sky - Morning Dew (2009-08-26 Visalia, CA)
I came in my pants 3X

Anonymous said...

^
"morning dew" is a grateful dead tune.
good to see navarro hitting that one. very good.
they also did velvet undeground, "femme fatale", floyd "lucifer sam" and other psych classics

Anonymous said...

^
Sort of. "Morning Dew" is a song that The Dead covered.

Anonymous said...

You should have stayed in high school. Your knowledge of commodities is embarrassing not to mention completely inaccurate for the point you were trying so desperately to make. Americans spend more on art than any other industrialized nation. Take some of your millions and enroll in a local community college or university, it's amazing what a proper education can do for someone as anxious to be cerebral as you.

Anonymous said...

^
That was a bit snotty, don't you think? Is the pinnacle that you strive for really just a perch from which you can sit and make snide comments to those who you believe to be of lesser intellect/education? One can be educated and intelligent without being particularly creative or inspired, and vice versa, and this fact should go a long way in our considerations of an individual's value, and the level of respect with which they deserve to be treated. One can also be well-educated, yet be completely bitter and rotten inside. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, and hope that your post was a brief and uncommon lapse of character due to some unknown variable(s). I'd like very much to think that you are not completely wretched, and that perhaps, with time and reflection, you will see the error in your ways.

Anonymous said...

^
suck on these nuts

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